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Nordic Summit (#95)
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Episode 95: Nordic Summit 2026
This time we come to you "live" - or at least together - from Nordic Summit 2026 in Billund, Denmark! We sat down at the end of the two-day conference for a short recap of what it was like for Ulrikke to be an organiser and for Nick to be a speaker at this community event.
One of the popular topics for this conference was the new way to build apps from Copilot Cowork and Copilot Studio for those with tenants enrolled in the Frontier Program, as announced by Ryan Cunningham. At Nordic Summit, we saw Cooky and Matt Beard demo this in their session, and we have links to the announcements in the show notes.
Also - if you are in the process of migrating from any CRM system into the Dynamics 356 CE platform, have a look at the Dynamics 365 Activate accelerator announced by Jeff Teper.
We also highlighted some content around Power Pages from Tino Rabe and Ritwik Ganni, and had a good old banter about SSL/TLS Certificates for Power Pages - which you can now get directly from Microsoft instead of having to rely on a third party - we learned from Ritwik Ganni.
Make sure to check out your local area for community events! Europe is on fire at the moment, and we are positive you will find a place to learn, teach, discuss, and network somewhere near you. Have a wonderful rest of your week and take care.
Show notes
Nordic Summit
News
- Build apps in Copilot Cowork and Copilot Studio by Ryan Cunningham
- The Render-Mutate-Refresh Pattern: Liquid + Server Logic in Power Pages by Tino Rabe
- Accelerate your move to agentic business applications with Dynamics 365 Activate by Jeff Teper
- Microsoft-Managed SSL/TLS Certificates for Custom Domains Now Available in Power Pages by Ritwik Ganni
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GoDaddy Calls And A Missed Warning
NickThere is not a glitch because if you look in my phone history, if I can find it here, um about a month ago, GoDaddy was calling me on like a daily basis.
SPEAKER_05You thought it was a scam or something?
NickNo, I didn't know it was a scam because I see the moat come up and I was like, oh, it's GoDaddy. And I'm like, no, screw it. I like I I leave me a voicemail.
UlrikkeI'm I don't think you thought they want to sell you something or something.
NickWell, I did because yeah, because usually when you set up an account on GoDaddy, they're like, oh, well, well, this domain is expiring. Do you want us to help set up your website and all this stuff? No, no, I know they won't be like that. Like, and don't call me in the middle of the day. I'm in the middle of something. Like, don't distract me. So, anyways.
SPEAKER_02Maybe they tried to warn you.
NickI think they probably did, but they didn't leave me a voicemail. So, anyways, long story.
SPEAKER_03How old are you? They didn't send you a fax? What?
SPEAKER_00No, they didn't. They sent me my certificate fax.
Recording Together At Nordic Summit
NickWelcome everyone to the Power Platform Boost Podcast, your weekly source of news and updates from the world of the Power Platform and the Microsoft community with your host, Nick Dolman and Litika Akeback.
SPEAKER_02Hey.
NickSo we're here live?
UlrikkeYes. Yeah. Again. Well, we're never live when you say we're live. We're recording. We're recording live.
NickWe're recording together.
UlrikkeYes.
NickFor this is like the fourth or fifth time this year we've been able to do this.
UlrikkeActually, yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's keeping it. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Uh and we're at Nordic Sumatch. Yes. Um here in Belund in Denmark.
NickIn Legoland.
UlrikkeLegoland, yes, Lego Land Hotel. So I sleep with the Lego dragon looking down at me.
NickYeah, I have the dragon in my room as well. And the bunk beds and the little and the sword and the castle. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's there's the 10-year-old inside me is going crazy with all this Lego everywhere.
UlrikkeI think actually they should have paid us to have the conference here just because they're gonna get so much more revenue for the people coming back with their kids.
NickOh, 100%. Yep. And visited uh I was able to visit Lego House, uh, which was really cool, all the interaction and things like that. And then, you know, going to the museum and seeing some of the old kits and stuff, and kind of brought me back to my childhood. And then what I what I really liked there was this interactive uh thing where you could actually find all the kits throughout the years and then add them to your profile, like with this little armband you got. So I found I found this kit that I got when I was five years old.
SPEAKER_05Wow.
NickLike just the di and I was just it just brought back so many memories. Uh it was just so cool. It was just it's been a great, great weekend. But of course, that's we're not here to talk about Lego. Well, not only to talk about Lego, maybe we do a Lego podcast sometime.
SPEAKER_05Yes, that and the foodie boost sounds like a good idea.
NickWe have lots of ideas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we're here about like uh here at Nordic Summit. This is kind of the reason what we came. Yeah, of course, it's all about Microsoft technology, power platform, a bit of M365, a bit of Dynamics 365, all kind of in the mix. Uh a
Sessions Workshops And Hallway Energy
Nicklot of amazing sessions. Yes.
UlrikkeUm workshops in there as well. So this is the fifth time that Nordic Summit's happening. So it's a little bit of a birthday celebration as well. We had a celebration dinner last night. Um, and this time we mixed it up a little bit. So it's a two-day conference. So there's no pre-day workshop uh day. Uh and also we mix up the session lengths a little bit. So we had four-hour workshops, we had 90-minute sessions, uh, 45, and then 20 minutes or 25. Yeah. Uh, and you tried a little bit of uh a few of those.
NickYeah, so I had a 45-minute session on bringing your own code to power pages, which is a full room. It was great. Uh, did a 20-minute on the secrets of dataverse, which is I very well received, a lot of good feedback. And then Paulina Cold and I did one on a productivity hack battle, which we just finished maybe like about half an hour ago. Um, and that was a lot of fun as well. Like uh just riffing uh with our ideas back and forth, kind of, you know, it was it was a lot of fun. But you talk about some of these longer sessions. Uh Yucca had a 90-minute session, and it was like, and then it's funny, I was sitting beside a friend of mine who's here as well, and he goes, he says, I just he's I I can't believe to see Yucca in live in person, and I'm like, this is the most you'll hear Yucca talk. Like, you know, Yucca, we love you. Yes, you you your blog posts are amazing, big long things. Uh, but somebody we had a conversation with you, you're a man of few words sometimes.
UlrikkeNot online. I love that the online Yucca and the in-person Yucca is very different.
NickUm we saw we saw Presentation Yucca, which was an amazing session on governance, governance, and setting up your own dashboards and using the APIs and things like that. So it was just it kind of is another one of like I'm downloading the deck right away and following a lot of what he laid out. So it was really good. Plus, there's a lot of other great sessions as well.
UlrikkeYeah, a lot of great speakers and a lot of good attendees. It it sold out. We're like 400 people here. Yeah. So yeah, and it was a good I think we had like what, 10 people no show, which is crazy. Oh, that's nuts. Yeah, I know. So that's absolutely good. So yeah, it's really good.
NickThat's cool.
UlrikkeSo we've had uh a lot of fun doing this. Right.
NickAnd do we know where next year is yet?
UlrikkeOr uh no, we don't. Okay. Um, and uh yeah, I can't spill any means in terms of what happens next year.
NickMaybe maybe if Canada becomes an associate member of the EU, we should uh have uh have it in Canada. And we're a northern country, yeah, yeah.
UlrikkeNorth is north. Well, we'll see. You have your own thing going. Yeah, that's true. How many conferences do you need?
NickYeah, how do I need?
SPEAKER_00Well, probably a few less.
UlrikkeUh but it's really cool to be an organizer of something like that. So this year I haven't really been able to contribute so uh a lot, you know, uh going up the list, but also when we're here, there's always things to do. And we have an amazing group of volunteers that help uh and set this up. And of course, you could never have done it without all the great speakers as yourself. So this has been really good conference. So now we have uh two sessions, one session left after this, and then there's a closing keynote, yeah. Uh, and then a little bit of a DJ set, I think, with the Philips Atre, which is uh gonna be really cool. Yeah, and then it's just uh pack things up and wrap this up, and then off to the next one, right?
NickI'm going to Baltic Summit next. I was at Heller Summit before this, part of my European whirlwind tour. Uh, looking forward to that. I have a session on uh that's called uh Stop Clicking Start Prompting. So about getting makers into using Visual Studio Code. So a little bit of a variation, what I talked about with PowerPages specifically, but this kind of covers all of the I wouldn't say goes beyond Power Platform as well, which kind of leads into our first news with segues, right? Yeah.
Building Apps Inside Copilot And Co-work
NickUm so there was like a fairly huge announcement this week about uh building uh apps within Copilot and Cowork. Um this is now in public preview, and preview is a very strong word because it has a lot of little rough edges yet. Yeah. Um I participated a bit in the private preview, so I was able to try this out. And I would say this is this is not your this is not your grandfather's power apps anymore. It's it's a case of now you're going in um and going into uh co-work, for example. The idea you do the slash app skill and you build out an app, it kind of puts it in its own uh development environment. It will, you know, it has sort of you can do different data stores, you can tie to SharePoint list or Dataverse as well.
UlrikkeAnd so it's data store agnostic, really. It is you can choose, it's which is new. Yes. So it doesn't necessarily be mean it's tied to an environment and a and a solution or you know that kind of aspect.
NickYeah, we're moving on, so it doesn't have what they say they call that dataverse bias in terms of solution because people are asking, oh, when is this gonna become solution aware? And by all indications, it won't be because it is Git based in terms of the source control and in terms of deployment as well. So what that means is it's gonna go follow the more I'd say the traditional path of software development in terms of code merges and and branching and things like that. Like not all that it's there yet, but that's the direction. Um, and then you publish that app, and then it's available for either yourself or other people in your organization, has governance completely built in, tying in with the entra ID, so you can determine who has access to what, and then your administrators have full visibility of what's going on.
Credit Costs And ROI Reality
NickThe one thing that I think is going to be interesting going forward in the next you know few months as this goes, um, and the elephant in the room is it uh uh uses credits to build and to run.
UlrikkeAs the rest of the stuff does, right? So the times when we could build or fiddle around or play around with things and test them and using AI, that is now past. Yes, yes. That's not gonna it marks off moving away from that.
NickYeah, and and it'll be interesting because I think the in terms of determining the uh the ROI on building something is becoming very important. You know, yes, you could build an app to do a bunch of wonderful things, but is it gonna be worth the credits it takes to build it and it's gonna be worth the credits to run it? A lot of times it's definitely gonna be. If it's gonna save you time, it's gonna save you money, then great. If it's not, then then you have to make a decision. Is it gonna be worth it or not?
UlrikkeSo definitely depends on who pays for it, right? So if I'm a consultant and I'm paid to spend my hours building an app, and then all of a sudden I make that app in a lot less time, but I spend a lot of credits. Maybe that's billed for the customer. So maybe it's a different way of billing in a way.
NickYep. Yeah. But uh, like I tried it out, it was interesting. In my experiment, I took an existing Canvas app I had, I took screenshots, and uh that it doesn't set up Dataverse for you, so you need to have your Dataverse tables set up already. I had those already set up, of course, with my existing app. So I said, okay, build an app that looks like this and talk to Dataverse. And it developed a very modern looking because well, you've seen my designs.
SPEAKER_05Yes, yeah.
NickIt did have colors, it did have colors and like you know, the nice smooth edges and things like that. It looked, it looked super slick. Um, it did struggle a little bit on what Dataverse environment it was wanting to chat with or to talk to. So that took a little bit of extra work. I think that was just more of a um part of the preview feature at the time. So all in all, it is from a technology standpoint, it's really cool. Um we'll we'll see how um people sort of embrace it. And of course, there's a you know, it's still with there's still we still have code apps, we still have our regular power apps, and we're dataverse in Dynamics 365. This seems to be almost a new, sort of another different way of of building apps that are a little bit adjacent to that and not just another power app kind of thing.
UlrikkeSo
Preview Friction UI And Collaboration
UlrikkeI saw uh Matt Beard and uh Cookie demo this in their session yesterday as well, and it was very obvious that it's not completely done done, right? So it's supposed to be responsive, for instance, but you had to kind of fiddle with the resolution a little bit because on one of the forums it didn't kind of you didn't have the save button, and then you changed the resolution, and ah, sure enough, there it was, but you couldn't scroll. So there's a few of these little baby thingies that need to be ironed out a little bit still, but that's why it's preview, right? It's for us to fiddle with it and for them to get the feedback because what they're doing now is they're looking into the telemetry of who's using it, how it's been used, what data are we connecting to, what issues is there, so that they learn from our usage in the preview period to to so if we don't use it, it won't get better, kind of thing. That's what why it's so important to have a preview phase of these uh new new things, right?
NickYeah, and they'll be and they'll be, I'm sure within the uh apps themselves, there'll be availability to provide feedback through feedback forms and the thumbs up, thumbs down kind of thing. Um, in order to access this, you need to turn on, make sure your uh environments turned on the frontier program. Oh and we have talked about that. There's a couple little clicks behind the doors and flip the switch and whatever, and then you'll be enabled for uh the frontier program, and then you can either go into co-pilot studio or just within co-work. And in co-pilot studio, you'll see the little app icon on the side, and or if you're in co-work, you just do slash app and describe the app there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
NickUm, so yeah, exciting times. I'm really I'm really interested to see how this evolves, and uh, because they're not talking about necessarily department apps, they were talking this is going to be for enterprise apps as well. So, how are we gonna be able to collaborate on building these agents together or these agent apps or whatever they're called? Um, you know, if you do something and I do something on the same thing, how those conflicts can emerge? So a lot of questions.
UlrikkeA lot of questions. And also, as we could see from from the demo yesterday as well, you you know, it it tried a few iterations because of course there's no template for the UI. So you kind of have to know a little bit about UI to get it to align properly and for it to work well. But if you don't know UI, this goes back to the same discussion again and again. If you don't know what you're doing and you don't know how to build a good UI, you will end up with something that isn't as usable. Right. And it's always the pro code, low code, how much do you know? The maker versus the developer. If I you create something, I go in and I iterate over something. So I think Cookie prompted something about a table, right? Suddenly it's changed the app completely.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yes, completely.
UlrikkeSuddenly to show all the tables in Dataverse. It's like, no, that's not what I meant. So I mean, until that is kind of ironclad and you have the versioning and like you said, the governance built in, but the development tooling is there, then it's a bit kind of it feels a little bit like I'm gonna break the internet, right? Can I can I just uh control Z to go back? Can I regret this one? Yeah, yeah, so but it will get better for sure. And I'm super excited to see how this lands in the little group of different app types that we don't have. Yeah, exactly.
NickYeah, a lot of different options. So that's part of like when I'll be talking uh my session later this week. I will kind of touch on that, still probably focus more on the power platform stuff because that's what my experience is, but definitely uh interesting times moving forward.
UlrikkeAnd also as power platform people, we need to widen our scope a little bit as well. It is co-work in Microsoft 3CC5 and work IQ and all this thing, that is now our playground in a way. So I'm kind of broadening my sense of what the power platform means and what it entails and kind of where our scope is a little bit as well. Do
Power Platform Meets Microsoft 365
Ulrikkeyou feel the same thing?
NickOh, 100%. And in terms of the community as well, like and this is maybe this is just a very kind of maybe that's my own personal observation. When I first started working in the doing stuff in the community, like we were the you know, the CRM people hung out together, right? But we didn't talk to the SharePoint people. No, like we were like, you know, the like the gangs across town kind of thing, right? But then more and more, especially with Power Platform coming in, that kind of the the CRM, the traditional CRM and Power Platform people move kind of together. Yeah, now more and more we're interacting more in the community with Microsoft 365, uh, with people, with um, you know, the modern work folks, whatever. I mean, like uh like it was in Finland because they cover a lot of that as well. Like, I mean, I I sat down, I had a really good conversation with uh a lot of the other people. Uh the shout out to uh Carolyn uh Kallen from Sweden. Uh Carolyn, we had a we had a great conversation about a lot of different things, and it's just good because these are the types of people that we typically never would have not to say we wouldn't have interacted before, but these community events are bringing us all together.
UlrikkeYeah, yeah, yeah. And so, and I think what you're saying is just it's so important. And also for us as organizers to actually now open it up a little bit to bring in more sessions, maybe to bring in a little bit of other tracks and other technologies to bring it together. Uh, and I also know so shout out to uh ESPC in Amsterdam in December, because that's traditionally a Marsh 365 conference, but it's not open up to be AI. So I'm sure we're gonna see a lot of co-work, we're gonna see a lot of other things, right? In Copeless Studio and stuff. So I'm I'm very confident that these two kind of lands are now moving together in a way. So yeah, I'm really excited.
NickOh, yeah, definitely better together across the whole board.
UlrikkeOh, better together. Oh, I love it. Yeah, Next is gonna say it depends, and then we're kind of all then the game over.
NickCool. So yeah, we're on our phone, our phones, looking at our notes.
UlrikkeSo uh we have a few other news articles
Microsoft-Provided SSL For Power Pages
Ulrikkeas well.
NickYeah, exactly. Um we're gonna talk about the you want to talk about the SSL stuff or um uh sure.
UlrikkeSo I but you did a blog post about this, so maybe it's better that you talk about it.
NickYeah, oh yeah, for sure.
UlrikkeWhat I say that can you tell me because this is what or deal now, right? Because I'm a little bit off and I've been very busy with the organizing. So this is the new setup is I don't know anything, and you're just telling me all the news and updates. Exactly. So with the certificates. With the certificates.
NickOkay, because of course you know working with PowerPages for years. What happens uh usually about a few days before Go Live? Someone says, Oh, we need to have our custom domain. Oh, who does who owns the SSL certificates? Like, oh crap, well, that's you know, like you know, Joe in this department kind of thing.
UlrikkeOh, we lost the password. Oh, which server was it? Did we was it GoDaddy or was it the other one?
NickSo just try to locate the certificate. And so, anyways, Microsoft had announced and part of the the roadmap back when they did roadmaps um about the ability that they were going to generate provide their own um SSL certificate. So you still need to own the domain name, you still need to have access to the DNS to do the C name, but the actual SSL certificate that usually costs a few hundred dollars, very expensive. Well, very expensive.
UlrikkeWell, we used to give it as a benefit as well in the works and MAP program.
NickYes, uh with digicert or something like that. Yeah, but even but even that you had to go jump through a few hoops to get all that going. Um, so I saw that, and I go, oh, that's really cool. And then, you know, what happened was uh I actually went to uh I on my website I have a link that goes back to my previous sessions. So there's a download link to the the materials. Like, okay, I went to Heller Summit. I need up to the materials. I go to my website and I see, you know, uh this has been blocked because my the certificate is invalid. So my certificate expired. Now I got it from uh I I don't want to throw them under the bus, but let's just say there's a uh they're kind of a go parent type uh organization. And the funny thing was is usually you would get an email, you would think you'd get an email or a little bit of a warning that you're thinking.
UlrikkeMaybe you did.
NickYeah, I did.
UlrikkeYou do use AI to summarize the emails. Maybe there's a glitch.
NickNo, but there is not a glitch because if you look in my phone history, if I can find it here, um about a month ago, GoDaddy was calling me on like a daily basis.
SPEAKER_05You thought it was a scam or something?
NickNo, I didn't know it was a scam because I see the moon come up and I was like, oh, it's GoDaddy. And I'm like, no, screw it. I like I I leave me a voicemail.
UlrikkeI'm I don't think you thought they want to sell you something or something.
NickWell, I did uh because yeah, because usually when you set up an account on GoDaddy, they're like, oh, well, well, this domain is expiring. Do you want us to help set up your website and all this stuff like that? No, I know that they didn't. Like, and don't call me in the middle of the day. I'm on the middle of something, like, don't distract me. So, anyways.
SPEAKER_02Maybe they tried to warn you.
NickI think they probably did, but they didn't leave me a voicemail. So, anyways, long story.
SPEAKER_03How old are you? Well, they didn't send you a fax? What?
SPEAKER_00No, they didn't. They sent me my certificate fax.
SPEAKER_02So, okay.
SPEAKER_00So, anyways, so this is how I discovered my SSL certificate expired.
NickMy website, like, oh crap. Oh, that means I have to go to, you know, said company, and I think we already said, but anyways, uh, and I have to renew the certificate and stuff. Like, oh, oh, wait a minute. Microsoft is now providing um certificates. So I went into my portal and the option wasn't there and what's going on. So then I read the documentation. Like, oh, you need to make sure CDN is disabled and the web application firewall is disabled. So, okay, no problem. I disabled those. Waited for that to refresh, went in, and sure enough, yes. You know, you can still upload your certificates if that's your company policy. But Microsoft provided certificates. Yes, click. What's your domain name? And of course, I already had the C name, set up the DNS, was already set up and found it, and within two minutes, I was back up and running. Wow.
UlrikkeIt just click, click, click, because that thing takes forever, usually. I know, right? Wow, I'm impressed. Now I'm gonna that's this is gonna be my next uh your call to action? Yep, yep, awesome.
NickSo, yeah, so for those of you running PowerPages sites, uh, you get your domain name registered, but don't worry about SSL certificates, you don't have to. It's one less thing. And how many things we get from Microsoft that will save us money? Yes, I mean like immediate tangible money-saving things. So good work, team.
UlrikkeVery good. Thank you so much, team. That's brilliant. Yes, okay, great.
Power Pages Render Mute Refresh Pattern
UlrikkeUh, there is another uh blog post this week about PowerPages from our great friend Tina Reeves. Yep, Tino! Which, you know, not an MEP anymore, but still continues. Yeah, and he delivers content like no one else, which is just blows my mind. So just wanted to say that. Um, so that this was about um how to um so let me just bring it up.
NickIt was with server-side logic.
UlrikkeSo he calls it, yeah, yeah. So it's a render mute refresh pattern for power pages. Now, this is a little bit too derby for me, but I understand kind of the the basis of what he's doing. So if you use the Eliquid, for instance, to read off of power pages, you can read that, but it doesn't give you it does it's it's on the server, right? So it doesn't refresh. And then you use the web API, you can prompt, you can send data, right? But it doesn't give you anything back. So then you have to have the optimistic update UI thing that we've all been doing. We've been doing that for a long time. And now with this blog post, he actually has a very good um uh way of solving that as a kind of a three-step um pattern to how to implement something that will actually update the UI as well. Not optimistic update, but actually do it the right thing. And he has a really good, and of course, he's uh his blog post is always top of the notch, is a very kind of clear 10 step um process of how to implement it. So it's really cool.
NickAwesome. Good work, Tino. Yeah, definitely go look at that for sure. Add that to my uh listen. Of stuff.
UlrikkeYes, exactly that. And
Dynamics 365 Activate Migration Accelerator
Ulrikkealso I saw something that I just wanted to run by you. So there's an accelerator here. It's called um Dynamics 365 Activate. Okay. So it's uh it's uh it's a Microsoft blog post uh from Def Teeper that I saw just um kind of caught my attention. So it's about it's an accelerator to help people move from, for instance, Salesforce or update their CRM or their Dynamics 365 uh solutions to get started with Dynamics 365 faster. So it's not just a way to kind of replace your old CRM, but it's supposed to then enhance and kind of get you up and running quicker.
NickWell, that's awesome.
UlrikkeYeah, so it's it's a new app, it's a it looks like it's a you know a dynamics 365 app. Um there's um preview program, it's a public preview program uh to help you, and it already has a lot of baked-in um patterns for moving from Salesforce, for instance, right? So it's drawn on experiences from a lot of other um migration projects.
NickAnd I'm sure it's like AI enabled as well.
UlrikkeSo yeah, this is AI through and through also. Yeah, perfect.
NickSo I mean we've always we've had some of these accelerators or these kind of like even back in the day, these um uh the shirt the methodologies which provided templates, provided even Excel templates and sheets and things to fill in and to do workshops to help migrate from whatever system into Dynamics CRM or Dynamics 365. But now we're living in the age of AI with all these skills, so that you know accelerates that project. So that whole process to get you onboarded onto your new software into Dynamics 365, which is still going strong today, especially now with all the agents and agentic stuff going on, um, agents built in directly into the the Dynamics 365 processes for both customer service and sales and um even on the the ERP side as well.
UlrikkeSo it's um and also this of course this goes in and it it analyzes and it structures out the data model and everything, the security model and everything that it does take a long time for a human to do. So this is kind of in my book, this is the perfect way to use AI because it's so deterministic. Because it it's right there, right? So it's just it's not gonna make anything up. You get a blueprint for what the new solution should be, and also probably a benefit of actually being able to go in and maybe enhance it a little bit on the way as well, because that's is always the question, isn't it? Do we want to lift and shift or do we want to improve on the way while we migrate? Which is always a big question. But actually, here maybe you can actually do both and test, or maybe you can actually then look at what you have and make the necessary changes. Because you know what it's like when uh an application grows over time, there's always a hack and always a workaround and always a thing, and always the the feature that wasn't there. So you kind of had to do the special thing. You move from Salesforce, maybe there's features there that CRM doesn't have or the other way around, which means you will solve problems a little bit differently. So this is probably the and and the if this if I hadn't seen what I saw was that build in May, the migration tool that they built for for business applications or web apps in Azure, yeah, which is absolutely blew my mind around. Yes, I do remember this, yes, yeah. If it if I hadn't seen that, I would have just skipped this blog post because this is just magic and I don't believe in magic, right? Yeah, but because I saw that and I saw actually that working, that was a working demo that they did, not a screen recording, that makes me believe that this is possible. So I mean, if this is something that you're gonna venture into, check out this blog post and check out the activate uh preview program to make sure you check it out because it's probably worth looking into.
NickAnd again, it's still like you know, you need it will it will help. Um you still need to be the human in the loop uh to kind of guide and whatever, but hopefully this kind of covers some of those gaps, maybe the things you might have forgotten about, um, but also give you the ability to inject your own custom, unique line of business thing, which are in every project, right? Like, you know, uh we we were talking, I was joking with uh somebody else today about uh oh, you know, you know how customers kind of want, oh, we just want it out of the box. It's never out of the box.
UlrikkeUh no, exactly that. But stay as close to the box as you can. That's my advice. Yeah, yeah, cool. Stay stay standard.
Conference Learning Habits And Closing
NickYeah, so I mean this will be a shorter episode, and uh we'll be back again in two weeks. Um where will I will I be?
UlrikkeI might actually You might still be here.
NickI might be here. Oh, they'll be right after Scottish Summit, I think. Yeah.
UlrikkeSo let's have a look. So that would be uh in a couple of weeks. So you're still here.
NickWell, here Europe.
UlrikkeYeah, yeah, yeah.
NickUm but yeah, so this this was good. I um again, uh check out if you're I think if you're in the key, if you want a more interest in the community, but learning more about the this this career, even about this career, if you're new or established, um, definitely check out these events. These are put on, they're very low cost usually. Um, you learn so much. You meet people um in the community that are there to help you out, um, and just uh to kind of get you through some of these bumps and hurdles along the way. Or if you have like I think all of us, a thousand questions on AI and all of these tools and where to use co-pilot this or co-pilot that. Um, there's folks here that will have different opinions and you have these really interesting discussions. Um, and it really for me, I always walk out of here with a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of energy uh to go forward and to try out new things and uh things I want to apply in my own projects.
UlrikkeOh, yeah, definitely. And also make sure that you set aside time to share what you learn with your team when you come back. And often I do that because we have these tech talks on Fridays, and I make sure that when I come back from a conference, I always ask if I can be the one that talks there. So it's both uh speaker training, but it's also the sharing the knowledge, but also it means I take more, I'm more diligent with taking notes, I'm more diligent with having questions. So I'll sit in the session, I'll always think of a question and kind of go up to the speaker and and have a good conversation or discussion afterwards, or in the hallway with someone else. And it's so funny with this AI stuff as well, because you'll have people that have been in the industry for a long time, they have such a different uh perspective. Right. So we have a session uh in this room right about now. So we need to go so that they can prepare. And uh we will see you in a few weeks.
NickYeah, bye everybody.
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