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Keep it real (#42)

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[0:00] What we do for fun, that's what it's doing. To start a new project, to take in the requirements, to start with a bank canvas and to start digging into the company, the new industry, to learn how a company works, that is fun to me. I don't want AI to do that. That's something I'm good at. That's what I'm looking forward to in a project. Creating a logo, a new brand, a new color scheme, scheme putting it together doing marketing stuff or doing music or art or recording this podcast with you it's a highlight of my week and I love it and it's a lot of fun I don't need AI to do that I want AI to do the boring things the things that I really don't want to do the things that I you know that you have the the want to do's and the have to do's right I keep telling and teaching the kids you do your homework first because that's what you have to do and then you can do what you you want to do, right? You can go play with your toys or whatever it is. I would like AI to do the have to do things and then I can do the fun things, right?

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[1:25] Welcome, everyone, to the Power Platform Boost podcast, your weekly source of news and updates from the world of the Power Platform and the Microsoft community, with your hosts, Nick Dolman and Elidica Akebeck. Hi, Elidica. Hey. Hi, Nick. How are you? I'm doing well, thanks. It's been a busy weekend.

[1:49] Yeah, I would say long time no see, but I saw you technically yesterday. Yesterday of course we was at nordic summit you've seen the we've done the nordic summit recap which for those of you who are interested see that we had our pre-day workshop the day before which went really really well and then of course there was the after party that uh went uh i like to say i got home early in the morning yes that's good that was a lot of fun it was a full day um and i I think I'm not fully recovered, but it was absolutely worth it. And then having a Sunday with a lot of sun in Norway and having a good day, just kicking back and relaxing, that went well. So, yeah. And you're still in Norway, right? You're still here. And also. Yeah, I am. I'm working. Yeah, we're working this week and next week. I am going to take a little pop over to Dublin later this week for the Power Conference, the Irish Power Platform Conference or day or whatever they're calling it. Helping out Joe Gill and them. Yeah. And then, yeah, here till next week and then back home for Canadian Thanksgiving. So.

[3:04] Sounds perfect. Yeah. And then we have Scottish Summit and then we have all the other ones. So you're coming back here in the next months as well, aren't you? Yeah, there's always bouncing back and forth. There's a few things. And we'll talk about the events later. But there is a ton of news and updates that we should begin to work our way through. And a few other things that I do want to kind of talk about a little bit too in terms of podcasting and AI. So sort of stay tuned more to the end as we talk about that.

[3:38] You're really into the cliffhangers, aren't you? Oh, totally. Well, this keeps them coming, right? Keeps the listeners engaged.

[3:47] So first one, we've been working both in Power Automate for years. I know you've been working a lot in Power Automate. I was actually fixing one of our flows today, fixing up a few things. But what's the one thing, and we've talked about this before, date. Date time formatting yeah so matthew uh devaney he of course he he's like a machine he like every week i think there's a new blog post i think he does like he spends like a few a week making like a whole whack of blog posts and just trickles them out uh i believe every sunday or monday and he wrote an article on the power automate format date time function examples so he's got a whole bunch of examples there that you can use in Power Automate Expressions. It's a great resource. I bookmarked that because a lot of times I'm working on trying to format the dates in Power Automate. So thanks, Matthew, again, for your amazing blog and your amazing content. It's definitely going to be, you know, like what I like about his, it doesn't have to be deep and deep and complex. He sort of, he has those as well, but he provides these things as just good little resources to kind of have there at your fingertips.

[4:59] Yeah, absolutely. And we see more and more of these small little snippets on LinkedIn, for instance. And so and that's very good seems to be engaging in the audience as well. And seems like to be easy to easy to consume for people. So that's very good. Yeah.

[5:17] Perfect. I also saw something that was from on Matthew's LinkedIn feed.

[5:24] But this was about enhancing user experience with the custom settings in Power Platform. He saw that there was a... No, actually, sorry, I got this the wrong way around. So Matthew posted on LinkedIn that he saw a new settings link in his environment, and he clicked it, and it's into the same kind of user experience into the same kind of settings that you would see in your old Dynamics 365 advanced app, model-driven app. So it's kind of, oh, this is new and shiny. Maybe this is what they're going to, where they're going to move stuff. And we talked about that before. There was an announcement a couple of weeks ago that they're going to move everything over to, of course, Power Platform Admin Center. So that makes a whole lot of sense. He published that as a short little post on his LinkedIn feed. And then, of course, there's a Huaco people that joins in the conversation and shares their insights. So for instance, you have someone called Carl Johan Speak. I think we mentioned him on the podcast before as well. He added a link to one of his blog posts showing how you can enhance the user experience with the custom settings in Power Platform.

[6:27] It's a three-part blog post series showing how you can actually... He's created a table in Dataverse that holds your personal user settings for a couple of different features, notifications, stuff like that. And then also how to build a Power Automate flow that can read those user settings and behave differently regarding how you've set your preferences. And also a custom page to show you where you can set those preferences. So a very neat little set of posts there to kind of show you how you can customize a good user experience. Yeah.

[7:07] And also, I saw something interesting. Roma Gupta, do you know her? Technology specialist at Microsoft.

[7:15] I'm not sure if I've met Roma, but I have seen her stuff for years. I think we might have sent a few messages back and forth. But yeah. Yeah. She's part of the community. Yeah, and she added more features coming soon. Stay tuned. So that's very interesting. We have kind of Microsoft also joining in the conversation and kind of alluding to something going on. So that's also, of course, very exciting. And then on top of that, we have our good friend Steve Mardu join the conversation and actually asking Carl right out, do you use AI for your blog posts? Because he kind of recognized what we talked about a couple of times as well, the embark on a journey type of communication style. And also the images are, of course, Microsoft Designer or AI created.

[8:02] And then Carl actually admitted to saying, yeah, A couple of months ago, I did use a lot of ChatGPT to write my blog posts and also create old images, but I've had feedback and it's not good feedback. So now I'm dialing it back down. I'm writing. So the last few blog posts that Carl's produced or published has been his own content through and through and also sourcing other kinds of illustrations and images for his blog posts. So I think overall, it was kind of an exciting stream of, and I love to see that on LinkedIn. And we see that so much more these days, how the community is coming together and interacting and it's becoming more of a conversation more than an advert placket kind of thing that used to be back in just a year ago, I think. Yeah, that's interesting. That might have become as a result of I think a lot of people are no longer using X as much or Twitter. I still love going on Twitter. Like, I don't know, maybe it's just a weird thing or X or whatever you call it now. Just to see the threads in the back and forth because it's unfiltered.

[9:09] Maybe I kind of like it raw and in the wild. But although I like these conversations on LinkedIn, because I think we actually know each other in real life, like a lot of us have met each other at conferences or events, then the conversation is a lot more, you know, there is a certain level of respect and proper debate decorum, I guess you could call it.

[9:29] We don't always agree with each other. Like you and I don't agree on some things sometimes. Times but overall there is the whole conversations are really really good interesting about what you said about the the co-pilot generated content and again a bit of a cliffhanger wait more to the end of the episode because I am going to dig into something kind of interesting.

[9:53] Excited to hear all about it. All right. So, but I mean, part of the things that's great with Copilot, of course, what I like using Copilot for, don't get me wrong, I don't. But we saw that they have the Copilot for Power Pages, the at Power Pages in the GitHub Copilot chat for VS Code preview, of course, by Niraj Nandwana. He's a principal product manager. Neeraj is one of my, of course, I have a lot of favorite people at Microsoft, but he's also one of my favorite people in Microsoft. Because anytime I was, when I was working there, Neeraj would be one of those ones that would just sort of send me a message on Teams going, we're working on this really cool feature. Can I have a meeting with you? Can I show it to you? Can I get your feedback? And so I really appreciated that. This looks really cool. I've been trying to get it going, but on my new laptop, I'm having a few issues. So I'm really kind of plugging away. way but it just looks really cool to start using that github co-pilot chat to generate power pages code so i am this is one of these things i am super excited about i'm looking forward to diving into that and um being able to use that in actual projects we're writing code for power pages.

[11:03] Yeah yeah i try to get it working on my machine or on my own tenant as well but it's not available in my region yet, so I can't really play with it. But yeah, and I like the fact that they're calling it a participant in the Copilot chat experience. I like that you have the PowerPages Copilot as a participant in your chat. And of course, if this actually does create good content and good code, then yeah, absolutely, I'm all for it. So it's going to be interesting to play with it for sure.

[11:34] And speaking of Power Pages, you posted something.

[11:39] Yeah, also from Neeraj. They announced, I think that was just last week, a new introduction, introducing AI summary for lists components in Power Pages. So this is also AI and also Power Pages, where you can, when you add a new list to your page, you can toggle to say, add an AI summary on top. And also that's going to be displaying charts, interactive charts, and visualizing your data on top of lists. And I'm not sure if it works. Yeah, because I looked at it. I tried to add it to my page today. And you can have that both on the old experience and the new experience. So the toggle isn't really dependent on if you use the new component or the old component. Because I thought maybe that would be tied to the new one, but it's not. So that's going to be fairly interesting. I'm hoping it's going to be smart and also curious to see how much we can customize it. But yeah, it's AI, so it's a priority.

[12:39] Yeah, and I saw that you posted something here from Justin, the GM of PowerPages on Microsoft Dynamics World, about portal concepts and PowerPages and things like that. Of course, we know this isn't just a little niche product. This is becoming

[12:57] a mainstream solution in the power platform. So what were your thoughts on that article?

[13:03] No, it's nice to see where Justin's head is at in terms of where we're going with PowerPages as a platform. And he talked about this at PPCC Power Platform Conference in Vegas as well after our workshop. He shared a bit about his vision for where he wants to see PowerPages in the future as a development platform and as a web platform. And they talk about intelligent business portals and also the intelligent studio and how AI is going to be infused both in the front end for the end user, but also in the maker experience.

[13:37] And what I highlighted in that was also the numbers, because it kind of blew me away a bit, because I've heard these numbers before. But in the article, they reference Microsoft sources saying you have over 287 million active monthly users on PowerPages, over 2.9 billion with a B website requests per month. And they had a peak throughput of over 17,000 requests per second. I mean, if you think that PowerPages is still a little niche thing in the corner of the platform, think again, because it's massive and it's only growing. And I know that the monthly active users, they've doubled that just in a year. So if you look at that curve, that's pretty exponential. And if we're going to follow that trend, it's going to take on its life of its own for sure. But it's very interesting to see. And of course, we're in the prime position now, being both key people in the PowerPages community. But we also see it through the community. Absolutely. How much attention PowerPages is getting.

[14:47] Yeah, and PowerPages isn't like the only thing happening in the Power Platform, of course. And it's kind of funny. We talked a little bit about connections and connection references and those types of things. And we've talked before about kind of flow coding standards.

[15:02] But Matt Collin-Jones, he had a couple of interesting articles specifically around connections with OAuth and then some cloud. And with that, some coding standards as well, kind of built a chart there that I see that you posted the show notes like right before we started recording. So I haven't had a chance to look at this. So tell the people about what you discovered. Sure.

[15:26] Yeah, well, it's exactly what you just said. And I was reassessing my own Google skills when I found this because I was confused why I haven't found this because this is the thing that I've been working on for the last few months and I haven't found this. But it is Matt Collins-Jones who put together a blog post about the three different, you can delegate your power platform pipeline runs to, you can use a stage owner, you can use a service principal, and you can use OAuth to run it. And then he talks about the pros and cons and using the three different approaches. But also it kind of summarizes that OAuth kind of solves everything because at the end, the conclusion of his blog post, and he goes into very details on all the details on what you can do to set it up. And he says the way that he set it up now, he runs the pipeline. He has a deployment setting, which tells then the OAuth which connection to use in the destination environment. And that can be owned by a completely different user.

[16:39] Meaning that when you actually are done with your deployment, all the flows are turned on, they have the right user, they're using the right connection reference, and that connection reference is now pointing to the right connection when you're done. And that is kind of the holy grail and the point that we've been trying to go to. Unfortunately, it also says along the way, we're on a few points that it's important that you do this up front. You need to set this up front. So I'm a bit worried that because we have deployed through the whole, down the whole pipeline so many times already, maybe it's a bit too late for us. I'm hoping we're able to backtrack, but I'm going to dig into this this week for sure. And then also he's, like you said, he's a Power Automate framework of coding standards for CloudFlows. That's a GitHub repository where he added the chart that we're looking at, both of us on the show notes here, where, of course, a named user account being not supported and not recommended for anything, but the service principle isn't perfect either. And that kind of surprised me because I was thinking that was the way to go.

[17:53] So it's interesting, for sure. And it's complex. And he also starts off his blog post saying that this is complicated, this is hard to get right, and this is how far I've gotten. So it kind of just goes to show that the struggles we've had the last few months isn't, it's not just us. It was interesting because I was watching a session on ALM just recently, and I asked the question about how do you handle connection and connection references? And the presenter just looked at me, he said, it's dirty work.

[18:29] Yeah we kind of got the gist of that um definitely um but also i saw another a video today about uh from someone just uh you created a video about power automate and how to work with dataverse lookups um and and relationships in in dataverse with with power automate cloud flows i mean there is um there's the simple stuff and then there's the dirty nitty-gritty stuff so um And yeah,

[18:56] we'll share the links to the show notes for that video as well. You have to check that out.

[19:02] Excellent. All right. We also, and someone else who we saw this past weekend at Nordic Summit, a really good friend of ours, Jonas Rapp. You posted something here about some of the updates that he's done to his tools. Of course, he added the Excel feature that we absolutely love. But he's added some logging for bulk updating. Yeah. And it's just a simple little update. but I just wanted to shine some light on Jonas' tool because XRM Toolbox, it's absolutely essential. I also saw a post, and I got the numbers wrong, but I think it was the top 50 examples, top 20, I think it was the top 20 tools of the XRAM toolbox. And Jonas wrote 10 of them or something. So it's basically Jonas' toolbox. And he created, or he updated his tool to now include logging as well. Because if you do bulk update or bulk anything, you need to log it because you don't want to document that by hand. And so that's very neat. It's going to save a lot of developers a lot of time. And actually also because we saw, I sat with Jonas at dinner this weekend, and he told me about a teleprompter. This is very interesting for us and anyone else out there that does podcasts.

[20:12] Teleprompter is you think, and actually what Johan that told us about it, was then Jonas was struggling to kind of comprehend how that could be handy for a podcast because you don't want to kind of have the text scrolling through the screen. Well, actually, you can now use that with your camera. So then I can look you in the eye while we're recording this and also have the camera be at the same place. So that's going to be kind of fun. We need to get one of those and check that out for the podcast for sure. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, we have totally scripted out everything that we talk about beforehand and we're just reading from the teleprompter as we do this. No, the point is that that's not what you do. then I can actually see you in the teleprompter instead of looking at the little dot on the top of my screen like I do now. Okay, fair enough. Because wouldn't that be neat though? I wish that the camera would be in the middle of the screen. That goes for both mobile and for desktop devices, right? You can actually, in Teams meetings, of course, you can actually look people in the eye and then I know that there's software that's supposed to do that, to move your eyesight to where you want to be, but I don't think that's good enough. So yeah, no, I'm looking forward to seeing how that evolves for sure.

[21:30] Excellent. Yeah. And then you had something else, co-pilot, team co-pilot. What is a team co-pilot?

[21:40] Okay. So this is, this is the slippery slope rabbit hole. We're going to dive into, I think. So yeah, it's interesting. So I went to an event and I met an MVP from the Netherlands, Femke Cornelissen. I think she's very well known in the Dutch community, more in the Microsoft 365 area. She's done a lot with Copilot, done a lot with AI. And then we got started talking about one of my favorite things, podcasts. And I was telling her about Boost and what we do. And she said, oh, I have a new podcast. And she said, listen to this. And it wasn't her at all. It was two people talking about Copilot. Now, she wrote an e-book, and that's on her website. And this e-book, you can actually, she took that and fed it into a service called Google Notebook LM. This is a, it's in preview, it's a Google thing. She uploaded this, and that generated the podcast of two people talking about her e-book. Now, this wasn't just transcription of voices. This was an actual conversation between two participants.

[22:56] Now, so I was just sort of blown away by all this. And I was like, honestly, not just a little freaked out, a lot freaked out because it's, you know, what's kind of, well, what's the point of us doing a podcast if, We can generate this, but even like with, with you and I, and all the little shenanigans and the little pauses and the little blips and the, you know, the odd little swear words that pop up here and there to me, this is, this is real. So this is real podcasting, but what Femke showed me was this sort of kind of, kind of blew me away. So I did the same thing. So our next topic that we were going to talk about

[23:34] is the new plan designer. Now, of course, this was announced at the power platform community conference uh the plan designer um you know just in terms of the topic itself really cool instead of you know when you're designing you know i this has been something i've been saying for years don't start designing your don't start building your software on that blank canvas you should plan it out you should do your um database your your data modeling your diagrams you should have at least a good plan you should have your user stories you should have your item in DevOps or, you know, a whole bunch of work, even before you get fingers on keyboard or fingers on keyboard to start building your software.

[24:12] The plan designer, the idea there is to take those specs, to take those user stories, upload them into this new thing, and you can build intelligent apps. And then it's going to start working and start doing your ERD diagrams, giving you options. Should this be a model driven app, a canvas app? Again, I haven't, I've signed up for the preview. I've not actually been able, I haven't been onboarded yet, I guess they could say. So I haven't tried this. So I don't know all the ins and outs. But to me, this is really exciting because it could help take some of that tedious work out of everything. That's the article. I took the link to what I used to learn about this, the link to the blog post that we'll have in the show notes. And I fed that into the Google Notebook LM. And I said, generate me a podcast about this link and it did and I'm gonna try to play it if I might have to go back and edit it but let's see if it actually will come through and I won't play the whole thing but it is.

[25:13] Like I said, kind of. Okay. So get this. Remember those sci-fi movies where like people just talk to computers and boom, things magically happen. We're getting closer.

[25:23] This blog post from Microsoft about their power apps platform is like packed with news. And it seems like AI is the star of the show. We're talking about something called Copilot, which is basically an AI assistant that helps you build apps. Right. And helps users, you know, work smarter once the app is actually built. It's definitely a big shift. This isn't just about making things a little bit faster or easier. Microsoft is talking about a fundamental shift in how we build and interact with software, really. Right. And what really caught my eye is this thing called Copilot. It's like having an AI assistant that helps you at every stage of that app building process, even after you've launched it. Yeah, it's a perfect example of what experts are calling intelligent apps, essentially software that can learn and adapt just like we do. Wow. In fact, IDC predicts that by 2026, a whopping 40 percent of all new apps will have some form of AI like baked in. Yeah. That's going to change the game for businesses. Yeah. And frankly, for anyone who uses software, which is pretty much all of us these days. So less coding, more AI. It sounds amazing, but like. So there you go. I haven't really listened to it. I listened to it just a little bit. And you showed me the clip that Femke had created this weekend as well. And it blows my mind, to be honest.

[26:49] Because you would think, I expected it to be two robot voices being a bit staccato.

[26:58] But it's not. It's two people that are interrupting one another, They're kind of talking above one another a little bit. It's so unnatural and so flawed that I would not be able to say that that was fake just listening to it. It's pretty crazy.

[27:21] So this is one of those things where... So you want to go into gardening? You want to take up gardening? Yeah. Or make a garden company. You can just be garden designers. Yeah, I can't do gardening, right? No, no, I can't. No, so that's perfect. Yeah, gardening. Get a farm. No, is it just me? Because I... And we talked about it this weekend, and we talked to a lot of people about this. I mean, the creative fields, right? What we do for fun, that's what it's doing. To start a new project, to take in the requirements, to start with a blank canvas and to start digging into the company, the new industry, to learn how a company works. That is fun to me. I don't want AI to do that. That's something I'm good at. That's what I'm looking forward to in a project.

[28:08] Creating a logo, a new brand, a new color scheme, scheme putting it together doing marketing stuff or doing music or art or recording this podcast with you it's a highlight of my week and I love it and it's a lot of fun I don't need AI to do that I want AI to do the boring things the things that I really don't want to do the things that I you know that you have the the want to do's and the have to do's right I keep telling and teaching the kids you do your homework first because that's what you have to do and then you can do what you want to do right you can go play with your toys or whatever it is i would like ai to do the have to do things and then i can do the the fun things right um it blows but it blows my mind and it makes me a bit sad and discouraged to be honest um yeah yeah i think i'm just gonna it does and as and as much as microsoft likes to say oh this is to help you this is your co-pilot it's not going going to take over we we as a society we need to be careful because we are developing something that with great power comes great responsibility yeah if i have you know like for instance planning out the schedule for the the top gun power pages thing yeah we have to figure out how much time in the hours and how much you know the the you know the breaks will be whatever yeah let's throw that at AI, let that generate that for me, because that's not fun. That's kind of whatever.

[29:36] But in terms of you and I having a conversation about this stuff.

[29:42] This is the human touch. This goes back to that article that you said earlier about generating content and stuff for blog posts and about the feedback we're getting. Again, let's keep that feedback coming. Let's keep things. There's a new hashtag. Keep it real. Please. Yeah. Keep it real. And we've talked about this before. We see it on talk submissions when we evaluate submissions for events. We can smell the AI on you a mile away. way. Keep it real or not do it, right? If you don't have the time to do it and do it right and be authentic and have it be you, then maybe you shouldn't do it because someone else will actually take pleasure in doing the work that you find tedious. They can do that instead. And you can find your niche and find the thing that you're passionate about and then do that and do that well. That is kind of where I'm coming at with all of this.

[30:37] And yeah, because it is fake. But I I think, you know, talking about how it's dangerous. I mean, you and me have accumulated enough audio content out there for anyone to fake us in any way they want. Anyone can grab all of the recordings that we've done for Boost and they can use our voices to do whatever they want at this point. They can have us saying all sorts of things. And that goes for any public speaker. That goes for any politician. That goes for anyone who's been interviewed a lot. And so, and it diminishes trust. You can't really trust what you see anymore. And this has proven it to me because I've been kind of a bit naive, maybe thinking, ah, I think I actually would be able to tell the difference out because it would be too polished, right? It would be too perfect. But this wasn't, this was not too perfect or too polished. This would have fooled me any day. And it's so easy to make.

[31:33] So I don't know. um let's uh continue with the news and updates i think uh because i'm just getting a bit um, to be honest i get a bit depressed about it because it scares me and i don't like it and i don't want to be the ai pessimist and i don't want to be the party pooper because it's very unpopular these days to the hate on ai because everyone's on the bandwagon but if you look at the graph where you have the enthusiasm and yes this is great and then you peak and then you plummet i think i'm on a fast track down uh plummeting at this point and i haven't really been that hyped to begin with so um yeah yeah so maybe let's spin this to positive stuff about uh some of the in-person events that are coming up to kind of wrap up everything so uh like i said i'll be I think, yeah, so if we publish this on Wednesday, so tomorrow, I will be in Dublin at the Irish Power Platform Summit. Now, speaking of sold out events, this is also sold out.

[32:41] If you have a ticket and you're not going to go, Joe Gill, who's putting this on has asked, please release that ticket so they can give that to people in the waiting list. I'm looking forward to that. I'm on a roundtable panel, kind of an ask me anything kind of thing with a few other MVPs and people from Microsoft. Soft so come with your questions um just come and chat whatever i'm really looking forward to seeing you there in dublin this week.

[33:04] Yeah, that's going to be a lot of fun, I'm sure. And also we have Scottish Summit coming up and Direction, AMA, and we have Microsoft Ignite. We haven't even talked about Microsoft Ignite. It also sold out in the middle of November.

[33:19] That's absolutely crazy. And of course, yeah, it just goes on and on. And also just wanted to mention and plug a little bit for ACDC, Article Developer Challenge, because I know we have a lot of Norwegian listeners. Listeners um the the submission date is you have to submit your team by i think mid-november so you really need to get your teams together and and sign up and i bet we're gonna sell out acdc this year so if you're looking to participate you need to get your butt in there and submit your stuff together get your peep together yeah so and you have as always been very diligent and And you put the release for next episode in here, and it's October 16th. Yeah. Wow. It's hard to believe we're in October already.

[34:08] I know. And that is the week before Scottish Summit. And, of course, if we're both there, then we're going to have a recap of that also, of course. And then, yeah, we'll just keep it rolling. And not using air. Because still we're not. We're resourcing everything by hand. No. It's all us. We're keeping it real. Writing every word of the show note, every word of any post you ever see, everything Boost is 100% handmade from us. So no AI to be seen. And I'm kind of proud about it. It kind of makes me feel proud. You shouldn't, because we should use AI probably at the same time. But you know what? I love doing this with you, and it's so much fun. And I want to keep it real. I love it too.

[34:53] Excellent. That's good. All right. Until next time, keep it real. Keep it real. There you go. All right. Talk soon, everyone. Bye-bye. Bye. Thanks for listening. And if you like this episode, please make sure to share it with your friends and colleagues in the community. Make sure to leave a rating and review your favorite streaming service and makes it easier for others to find us. Follow us on the social media platforms and make sure you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening to the Power Platform Boost podcast with your hosts Ulrika Akerbeck and Nick Dolman and see you next time for your timely boost of Power Platform news.

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